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6 Responses to “World condemnation of Israeli Jerusalem evictions”

1. theblackeagle Says:
   August 13, 2009 at 5:53 am | Reply

   When was Jerusalem ever under “Palestinian” sovereignty ? Please dont take these as rude, but as simple debate

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2. sudhan Says:
   August 13, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Reply

   The eviction of the Palestinians from their homes in East Jerusalem is the question addressed to in the article. But you seem to confuse it with the question of ‘Palestinian’ sovereignty. A people under Zionist occupation are not sovereign, and most possibly they will never be sovereign long as the Zionist occupation continues.

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3. theblackeagle Says:
   August 13, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Reply

   Occupation? Haha. There never was a country called Palestine. What is called Palestine was occupied territory of Egypt – Ottoman Empire. An unprecedented and perpetuated group of self-exiles that have inherited their status to their generation and therefore to justify the hatred and the annihilation of Jews. This Palestine had no territory, form of government, structure, constitution, president, etc.The term “Palestine” is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C.E., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what are now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century C.E., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word “Filastin” is derived from this Latin name.Zionism is a national liberation ideology that seeks as its ultimate goal an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land. It is not racist for an ethnic group to seek self determination, but it is racist however for people to refuse an ethnic group the right to self determination based on their race, which is what you are doing. The state of Israel is a legal and sovereign state. It was created by British colonialism control of the fallen Roman empire, there is no occupation, because there never was a Palestine. People lived in the land yes, but when Israle was created, no one told them to leave, except other arab, You have not given a single fact why you call it occupation

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4. sudhan Says:
   August 13, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Reply

   Your comment shows your interest in history. You may find the following links of some use, I suppose. The sort of facts you seem to offer in support of your view that there is no Israeli occupation because historically no Palestinian state has existed do not need a lengthy reply.

   The areas or regions where an ancient people like Palestinians have lived for thousands of years are still the same even though they embraced new faiths (Christianity, Islam, etc.). From the seventh century C.E. they had became part of the Islamic empires, the Arab Caliphate, Egyptian Muslim rule and lastly of the Ottoman Sultanate right up to the end of the First World War and the dissolution of the Ottoman rule. During this period the only exception of Western military domination was the establishment of the colonial settler states by the Crusaders; the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was one such state. In 1917, the British under Zionists like Lord Balfour deceived the Arab population by his double-dealings. The partition of Palestine in 1948 and subsequent expansion of Zionist Israel and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians are facts only too well known.

   Ancient Israeli myths deter peace
   http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/070809.html

   i. History of Palestine in 10 minutes (http://www.palestinechronicle.com/videos/viewVideo.php?fileID=279

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5. theblackeagle Says:
   August 13, 2009 at 7:38 pm | Reply

   Your links are aimed to be anti-Israel in nature and hold no value excepted opinionated hsitroy

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   • sudhan Says:
     August 13, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Reply

     The links are not meant to be anti-Israel; they contain some historical facts.

     I welcome balanced comments, but I cannot publish everything that is sent to me. Your point of view is that of a committed Zionist, and that makes it difficult for any such person to see or face the truth. That is the tragedy of all those who have acute cognitive dissonance.

     I am sending you another link to an article entitled ‘Jewish is fine, Zionist is not’
     http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_56639.shtml

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